Barry Meguiar 00:00
Welcome to the Ignite with Barry Meguiar podcast. How would you like to have the time of your life for the rest of your life? How would you like to defeat fear effortlessly, knowing for sure God is hearing and answering your prayers and directing your steps and making everything work for good? This is exciting. Here’s the question, How would you like to ignite your life. Stay tuned.
Welcome back to Ignite. I’m here with Cameron Tharp, and when we were off camera, my wife had to come down and, and love on Cameron a little bit. And she was just, I wish we had it on air. I thought we should have recorded that, she’s loving all your products and wearing all the scriptures all over her body and her purse and shoes and everything. And she’s a raving fan. She is a raving fan personally, and your company, I mean, you’re, you’ve brought so much.
Speaker 1 00:57
Well, thank you. And Karen’s a lovely woman. We’re lucky to have her around, aren’t we?
Barry Meguiar 01:02
Yeah. So if you, folks, if you didn’t catch the first portion of this podcast, I’d say stop and go back and get that one first, because you know a lot more about Cameron to begin with. We won’t go over that again here now, but you’re just getting warmed up, and you, I know you have so many things you’d like to share, and we only have this finite amount of time. So take off. What’s on your heart that you’d really like to hear people are scared understanding that we’re here. Well. Just, let me just finish the bottom line, and I say it all the time, but we’re here to ignite you folks, we’re, it’s Ignite America. That’s name of our ministry, and it’s, we’re here. Our whole purpose ignites you to get off the bench and into the game and start having the time of your life. The world is lost. It’s in turmoil, and the only hope, the only hope, is God, and we’re not going to no matter how good our representatives treat us in Washington. That’s not redemptive. We can get policies done. We get all that done. But the problem is we’ve turned our back on God in America for the last 60 years, we’ve basically stopped sharing our faith, and so we now have almost 90% of our population not churched, not knowing God, out of control, blinded by Satan, hating everybody and everything, breaking God’s heart, and not knowing that God loves them as much He loves us, and we need to remember that he loves them as much He loves us. So it’s not for us to be angry at them, they’re not evil, they’re lost. And so the point being for all of us, regardless what we do in our lives, if you’re businessmen like Cameron and me, we have our businesses, and we work hard for our businesses, but, but our businesses are our platform. He blessed my business, but it’s not because he likes shiny cars. I think he does cleanliness next to godliness. There’s something in there, but the fact that matters, he’s blessed my business while I’ve had it, because he knows I’ve used my business as my platform, if you will, and my pulpit to share him. He’s given me credibility through my business so that I have some influence, and that’s not an influence that helped me. Other people think how wonderful I am. It’s not about me, it’s about him. Everything I have comes from every good thing in my business and my life, everything that comes from Him, and we give it back to him, folks, by taking the love that he gives us and allow it to overwhelm us and flow through us. I say it’s salvationing love. His love is about carrying us, bringing us, attracting us to him and to heaven. So his love is salvation love, and he wants his salvation love to flow through us to everybody we connect with. Realize everything you say, whatever you say, Whatever you do, every moment of every day, you’re moving people closer, further away from God. It’s not just in the words of your mouth, but when the words of your mouth are confirmed by everything else you do in your life, your words have power. And I don’t care if you mumble, I don’t care you can’t quote Scripture. It just comes out of you. It’s genuine. It’s real. It’s the love of God. And Cameron’s enjoying this in such a wonderful way. And I gotta sit back a little bit. I get that’s my phone, bro, I’ll get off my boat, because you have so many wonderful stories that you every time I’m with you, I’m so inspired by you.
Speaker 1 04:38
Well, you’re, I mean, but you said it, Barry, you’re right. It’s like we all have a platform. You’re a business owner; I’m a business owner. We’re also regular old people that just walk around this world. But I have a platform, my business, with my wife and we, I want people to know and ignite them that you can share your testimony, which I believe is the strongest thing a person has, is their testimony or testimonies, and you can share it through your business. You don’t have to be silent in your business. You don’t have to be silent at work. You don’t have to be silent anywhere. And yeah, someone shuts you down, so be in it.
Barry Meguiar 05:19
It ashamed of the gospel every time we get up, pardon me for saying but I get opportunity to stand up and talk all the time. They give me opportunities to talk from stages and stuff. I will never stand up and talk without giving glory to God, never. They may not want to invite me back in, but if I’m up and I have a pulpit, they’ve given me an opportunity to speak to people for three minutes, I’m going to say something about God. So if they like me, they’re going to like me and understand they like me because I’m a Christian. That’s God there, you know. So use every opportunity to proclaim his name again in actions and words and deeds, and every opportunity he gives us. And you and I have talked about that a bit, and how much fun it is to do that without worrying about being rejected or anything else. It’s just, it’s just living carefree for him, sharing his love.
Speaker 1 06:10
No, absolutely do not care about being rejected. Does it feel great? No, but I will be rejected for God over God. I mean, for his, for his glory. No problem. Also, Kristi and I are given the opportunity to do lots of interviews and medias and magazines and like you know, the covers of magazines, and they’ll share our story, but I will not do it if they will not let us share our faith. There you go. Yeah. Doesn’t matter. It’s been CBS News, it’s been local. It’s been national. It doesn’t matter. That is one of the prerequisites, will you let me talk about my faith somewhere, somehow, some way.
Barry Meguiar 06:50
If it brings you glory, you’re stealing glory from God. You know what to do that.
Speaker 1 06:57
Correct. And so that’s, I mean, that’s huge for us. And I just, I mean, I would just want to inspire people that they can share. They can share in any way, shape, form, capacity, and they should share. And you can do it in fashion. I mean, we’re in a heavy, heavy business where people don’t share. And we, so we stand out, and we want to stand out for the good. And we do. We got, so.
Barry Meguiar 07:25
This, this little, I love the song, and we learned when we were kids. This little light of mine, we could be in the darkest world. This little light of mine sheds a lot of light in a dark room. And you and I both live in dark rooms, a lot of evil around us.
Speaker 1 07:38
And I want to tell you, Barry, we went through our, one of my stories from a few years ago where, you know, I was life and death cancer, and then about six to nine months later, I had a splenic in part, which is essentially like a stroke, but instead of going to the brain, it goes to the spleen. And it’s extremely rare. In fact, there’s eight, according to the Mayo Clinic publications, there’s eight identifiable cases of this, of what I went through, unexpectedly in the world that they’re, that they’re aware of.
Barry Meguiar 08:18
So you really are special?
Speaker 1 08:20
Well, I don’t know. I mean, I guess that’s a matter of perspective, but, but out of these eight, out of these eight people, the, all eight, there’s situation there, in part, was discovered postmortem. So, they were not alive, essentially. And. Your miracle. I mean, it’s in black and white, it’s published. It’s, it is what it is. I’m sure there’s some other folks out there that might have gone through this, and it might not have been caught or something. But so I went through that after the cancer, which we didn’t know if I’d survive, and then after the splenic infarct, I went through an aneurysm, and the doctors at Mayo could not explain it. They called every super specialist in the world. And or not, I shouldn’t say it. They called all their super specialist doctor friends, saying, How is this explainable? How it is my aneurysm disappeared from the MRI, I guess a day or two before to when I went under the knife into the surgery and they had me cut open, and they went in and the aneurysm was gone. And they came rushing out to my wife and said, What do you want us to do? What do you want us to do? And she said, Well, it’s gone. The aneurysm is gone like this. They’re like, yes, the size is of a pen now. She said, seal him back up and get him out of there. And you know, that essentially, that’s what she said, like he’s if there’s no surgery to be done, he’s been healed. And this went on for months later. And you know, we had zoom calls with the doctors, and the Zoom calls kept growing, and the doctors kept bringing more and more people, and my wife kept saying, it’s a miracle. It’s a miracle. It’s a miracle. The doctor said, Well, it’s scientifically unexplainable. We can’t explain it. We just, there’s no grounds for this. And then, yeah, finally, on the last zoom, called all the doctors. He had all of his under surgeons, his fellows, and he said, You know what? Miss Tharp, it, what we have here, we have a miracle. And it was like a relief off Kristi’s mind just, just to know that she was right all along and it was a miracle. So, cancer, stroke aneurism, and it’s just like, bang, bang, bang, I’m just getting nailed. And it’s, it’s all okay. And you know, you asked about my faith and what that did to me. I mean, sure it shook me up a little bit, but it did, never took away my faith, never sent me to a dark space.
Barry Meguiar 10:51
You know, we both know people, Christians that are solid Christians been in church all their lives, that know God, are on their way to heaven. But you wonder what’s going on when they have one bad thing after another, after another, after another, and all the way through they’re complaining and moaning and groaning and poor me, and please pray for me and they, and all we hear from them is their problems. I mean, they’re the worst possible testimony for God. And you wonder why it happens over and over and over. And I look at God keeps trying to get their attention to come to him, and they just, they wallow in their own stuff. And James one makes it very clear, if, if you’re not in pure faith, if you’re if you’re double minded in your faith, don’t expect me to do anything for you so, people like that can pray all they want to, but God’s not obligated to answer their prayers, but they’re double minded. We have a church that’s double minded right now, big time complaining about everything. There’s not joy. And they can’t share their they can’t do what we do. They can’t share the faith freely and have excitement about it. They can’t do that when they’re, when they’re worrying half the time God’s not advancing their prayers
Speaker 1 12:10
And Barry, we are, we are racing, and I mean racing to the end, you know cars, we’re racing to the end. Uh, no one knows the day, but we’re racing there, I can guarantee you. And God says, Today is the day of salvation, not tomorrow, not a week, not a year. We don’t know from the last day now. And that being said, eternity is eternity. Where do you want to spend it? You want eternity with the Lord or do you want eternity on the downside?
Barry Meguiar 12:46
Folks, do you hear that? I think that when you read what hell is like in the Bible, there’s more words on there’s more descriptions of hell than heaven. It’s so horrible. But the worst part of hell, to me is it never ends, ever, ever. It’s forever, and we put it off and don’t talk about it back. Preachers rarely even mention hell anymore, but it’s actually rewards and punishment. We should know what the punishment is. That’s an incentive to get us to go in the right way and go for the rewards, you know?
Speaker 1 13:20
And there’s a lot of good reasons to get saved, and I would think that not going to hell would be one of them.
Barry Meguiar 13:25
Yeah, I was raised on what they call hell, higher damnation. It scared the hell out of me. I’m thankful for I was in legalism. I don’t agree with legalism, but quite frankly, as a young kid, it stopped me from I didn’t want to go to hell. It kept me straight. But it’s the grace of God. God, He gives you this free gift of eternal life, folks. But don’t just be a hearer, be a follower. Follow him. On in, let the Holy Spirit, let the love of God flow through you to those around you, and all sudden, your life comes. It ignites your life. I wrote a book on it. It ignites your life. And the Word of God becomes alive, and your prayer life becomes alive. And every day is an adventure. You want to have the time of your life for the rest of your life, step into the world that Cameron and I are living in, and it’s fun to have another businessman who’s not really, as I mentioned earlier, he’s not really my buddy. We don’t hang out with, I don’t even know where you live, Cameron, I’m not sure where you even live, but we were at a trade show on several occasions, and immediately found out we’re face tears and started talking. And immediately we know we’re part of the family. We’re part of the family of God. We’re going to heaven together. And the closest that you and I share, even though we live in different parts of the country, is precious. It’s precious the friendship that we have.
Speaker 1 14:56
It’s precious, and it’s precious indeed. And, and clearly it’s eternal. We will, we will be brothers forever. So, Barry, I did promise, and I can go on as long as you like, but I did promise you one surprise. Okay, I’m ready. And a rare, and a rare showing I’m here in Florida because you asked where I was. I am here in Florida on the beach, and I have the other co-founder of Rockwell Tharp here, Mrs. Kristi Rockwell, who and she’s gonna say hello to you and your audience.
Barry Meguiar 15:35
This is precious. This is precious. Hey, there she is.
Speaker 3 15:41
Thank you so much for, for having Cameron on. And I just want to share the Bible verse that’s on our zipper is 2 Corintios 5:7, and it’s for we walk by faith, not by sight. And so you know it’s to all of your, your followers out there I just know that it’s faith in God that’s gotten us through all of this.
Barry Meguiar 16:04
Yes, you exemplify that. You shout that message with your lives, not by the sight of all the incredible stuff God’s allowed you to, to go with you, for your glory, for His glory.
Speaker 3 16:17
Yes, it’s all for His glory.
Barry Meguiar 16:19
For your good and his glory. And look at you, guys. You’re still standing.
Speaker 3 16:23
Absolutely and when Cameron was sharing that about his splenic artery aneurysm and in part, and he was still under when the surgeon came out that day, I was like, praise the Lord, hallelujah. It’s a miracle. It’s a miracle.
Barry Meguiar 16:37
And all the doctors and nurses watching you, that’s not the typical reaction, you know.
Speaker 3 16:44
No, we can’t explain it. We can’t explain it. And I was like, it’s God. It’s God. So because I always play pray for, you know, God to be our shield, our covering, and, yeah, for us, our families, our business, our customers.
Speaker 1 17:01
So, so Barry I made. I made the two biggest decisions of my life. Number one, was to accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. And I never, ever, ever have nor will regret that. And the second biggest decision was to marry this, this young lady here, and she has gotten me through a lot of this.
Barry Meguiar 17:23
The greatest gift on Earth is being given a godly wife that you can share life with and encourage each other and help each each other through it. Karen’s my rock. And you know, I absolutely feel because I love Karen. I talk about Karen all the time. Sure. Yeah. Not. I just everybody knows how much I love Karen, because I love her. If we love God, if you love God, folks, you’re going to tell people about him. You just are. You can’t stop yourself. He loves me. I’m on my way to heaven. If you’re not that point, yet, you may be on your way to heaven, but not the point of just being cognizant Almighty God loving you. And now that he has you, he wants to love everybody around you through you have. If you do that, it’s over the top.
Speaker 1 18:17
Share, share, share. We go all over the globe, all over the country. We go find places to share. We share. We want people to know. People don’t know, and they know.
Barry Meguiar 18:29
Before we leave. Give me one spontaneous, unexpected, face sharing, opportunity not planned, but you just bumped into somebody you didn’t know at the moment, it was a God orchestrated, you know what I’m talking about God just makes it happen. And walk us through one of those. You got 100 of them. Give me. Give me one, right quick.
Speaker 1 18:51
Okay, one that just quickly came to mind. We were in Cambodia. We were on one of our design trips. Something took us to Cambodia. We ran into this family at a Christian church in Cambodia, and we said, we want to help someone find us, someone tell us someone who and they had a brother in law of a brother in law, or something like this. We said, you bring them to us. You help us find them. And we’re going to take them to the hardship, hardship. I mean, they had major hardships. And we said, we’re taking them to an all expense, paid grocery store trip. And we just took them in and said, anything you want, whatever you want, you get what you want. You fill up 10 buggies. You fill up one buggy. You fill up whatever you want. And I just think about this in my mind was they were out of the poor man’s rice in Cambodia. They were sold out, and they only had a fancier rice. And he, the husband, was a young couple and their child, and they were extremely, you know, desolate, and he was so embarrassed that I was buying the fancy rice. And we’re talking maybe a dime a kilo, different sort of thing. And stuff like that that we do around the world, eye opening.
Barry Meguiar 20:03
Give us the one that where you’re at Starbucks or somebody just right around your home. That was unexpected.
Speaker 3 20:11
Well, I can tell you, when Cameron shared about our bracelet, the, the bracelets that we, where we order these by the 1000s, and we were in Houston all of March, and I tell you what, we, we gave out all 1000 that we had. And, you know, it’s amazing at the people that come up and when they’re reaching in it, because it’s in a little candy jar, and it says free. And I always say to them, you know, let me share this with you. Do you know that Jesus came to earth? He died on the cross for your sin. He’s buried in the tomb, he ascended into heaven, and he will return again? Do you believe that? You know Jesus in your heart? And so, I mean, just the past month in Houston, we gave out so many of those. And then that inspired other people who were maybe there was a mom who they’re coaching her and her husband are helping coach the son’s softball team. And she was like, Can I order these? Can you help me order these? So, we can share them with the softball team, and when we had our brick and mortar store here in Florida. The same thing with someone who was playing in Atlanta with like the Atlanta Braves, and they wanted to do it. So it’s just planting the seed and inspiring others that we meet along the way.
Barry Meguiar 21:37
Pardon me for asking the question again, but let me ask it one more time, something where people don’t have your bracelet, they don’t have your platform, you’re just, you’re just somebody on the street somewhere, and God provokes a conversation with you when you’re looking around and you’re aware, and God directs you somebody. Share one of those types of stories with us.
Speaker 1 21:57
Yeah, and those are, those are good because people are so afraid to talk now they’re on either side and because you don’t know who, what someone’s motive is, or whatever. But I’m trying to think of the last one that just out of the blue. They’re there. There’s lots of them. Yeah, we’re so in the public that I think that’s one, it’s the kids. Kids are craving this so much, and they, like Kristi was mentioned, they see this little bubblegum thing, and you think there’s 1000 things for him to see, and they see one little thing, and Kristi stops everything she’s doing and starts to tell them about Jesus and salvation. It’s just no, it’s absolutely amazing. And then she says, Do you believe this? And ask them directly, like to their eye to eye, do you believe this? And they have that opportunity right then to say, No, ma’am, I don’t understand. Or, Yes, ma’am, I do. Or, you know, whatever the case may be. And it’s, it’s absolutely amazing. And it’s one way.
Barry Meguiar 23:03
Give me a opportunity. We talk, we talk about this phrase, and we mean it sincerely, move everybody. Oftentimes, the Church says, find somebody, one, today. Wait a minute. But I mean, what’s one, right? I say, you know, out of all the people I gotta meet today that are lost, I’m supposed to pick one, just one, and if I pick that one, how do I know that’s the right one? And if I find the right one at nine o’clock in the morning, am I off the clock the rest of the day? It’s move everyone that would then we don’t miss it’s the clerk. It’s your wife in the morning, it’s everybody you’re with throughout the day make sure that your number one goal is more than just a transaction or a piece of information or a loving moment, but it’s moving them closer to Jesus. Move everybody every day closer to Jesus, yeah. And then you’re filled with stories every day and experiences that ignite your life, you know. And we all have these incredible stories all the time, and that what, that’s what ignite your life. It makes you so joyful together. And the fact that you can do that together, you can celebrate together, these opportunities is it’s a beautiful thing to see, really, is.
Speaker 3 24:26
Thank you so much. And, yeah, it’s like in our everyday lives, you know, the one thing like being at Starbucks or being at a restaurant and someone’s maybe not so happy or grumpy, you know, those are the people that need Christ the most, because we never know what someone else is walking through. That’s right, and that’s why sometimes I think our kindness or knowing that God brought us across their path for a reason.
Barry Meguiar 24:55
Well, that’s the Holy Spirit also helping us read people and, and when he’s doing that, it’s a nudge. We call it the nudge. Right. That nudges us to go to people. And that’s the Holy Spirit saying that person’s a need. You need to go and love on them. Just love on them. Don’t preach at them. Just love on them. And they’ll so often open up. In fact, they’ll always open up and share. And then the God gives you a scripture or whatever to minister to them. That’s what life’s all about. We do that every day. It’s just, it’s just, it’s just so much fun to be in that kind of relationship, with that personal relationship. And we say, here’s our we have several phrases in Ignite. One of them is, follow the nudge. Live in the fog. Fall the nudge. Live in the fog. We know what the nudge is. You’re just talking about it. You see that couple of their downcast, and so God directed you over to them to love on them. That’s a beautiful thing. When you call the nudge, you live in the fog, or I would say you live in the promise of Romans 8:28, where he says, if you live for my purpose, which is to seek and save the lost of course, he said, When you live, love me and live for my purpose, everything works for good. So you’re in the process, when you’re loving them, you know you’re going to have God continue to bless and pour out His blessings on your life and give you more opportunities to impact more people. And every day just gets bigger and bigger until you’re my age, you’re up for your 80s and have more fun than we deserve. I can’t believe how much fun we have every day, because we do this every day. And folks, let me just finish, we’re about out of time here, but you need to seriously consider this. It doesn’t matter if you’re selling clothing or car wax or a housewife or an athlete or a student, or you’re 8 years old. If you love God, he wants to love everybody through you. This is your calling. It’s only one thing he calls to do, love your neighbor as yourself. Live for my person, seek and say the law. That’s his absolute calling for you, for you. It’s for you, because it ignites you more than them. In fact, they’re secondary. Isaiah 43:10 says, I appoint you as my witness. Thus, saith the Lord, I appoint you as my witness so that you believe. Because when you just go through the motion you’re not sharing, you get bumped around and all kinds of problems, and you make it to heaven, probably, if you accepted the Lord, but not having fun and not influencing everybody else. But when you’re doing this, you become the over recovered. Every day is an adventure. Right. And we ignite our life. We actually have a book. You go to amazon.com, and Amazon bestseller Ignite Your Life. It does. People want to be, well hundreds of people are coming back to us now and saying, it delivers, my life is ignited. We have hundreds of reviews, five-star reviews on Amazon, and they all say the same. They’re only five-stars. Every single one of them say, I never shared my faith before ever. And now I’m sharing my faith every day, and I’m having the time of my life. Yes, you need to get in on this, folks. Final word, you guys, I love you to death. I love your hearts. I love your devotion to God. I love your testimony. I love the impact you’ve had on millions of lives, on millions of lives.
Speaker 1 28:19
Well, at the end of the day, Barry, we’re just two people trying, and we are believers, and we do believe in sharing and, and we’re so thankful the Lord for our platform that He’s given us, yeah, and I’m thankful that the platform he’s given you. Yeah. He’s giving to give to us.
Speaker 3 28:36
And thank you for inviting us to come on. So. Yeah.
Barry Meguiar 28:39
What a privilege we have to represent God at this moment in time, right now. He chose us. We could have been at any other time in the history of human mankind, but he put us, us here right now to represent him in these last days. I mean, how can we not take full advantage of that and go. Right.
Speaker 1 29:02
You better believe it.
Barry Meguiar 29:03
Praise God. Thank you guys. Love you bunch. Love you bunch. Give the name of your company again one more time, your website.
Speaker 1 29:09
I’m Cameron Tharp, and this is Kristi Rockwell, and our company is Rockwell Tharp. This is the Kristi Rockwell, and she is the lead designer of it. And this is certainly made the interview better, right?
Barry Meguiar 29:21
It’s great, awesome. Thank you, and for the rest of you, see you next time.
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