Barry Meguiar 00:00
You welcome back to ignite everybody. Have special guests with us. Our actual this is second in a series of two, Dr Pam and Dr Scott file, great friends. We feel like we’ve been friends for years and it’s only been maybe three months. But, you know, it’s amazing. I have found that the closer we get to God, the closer we get to each other. I’ll tell you a funny story quick. I think I’ve mentioned the past, but we were interviewing folks in Fresno, California who share their faith, and there was a black lady there my age, looked much older than me, actually, who just come through bypass, quadruple bypass surgery a few days earlier,
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and had grown up poor, and I was the interviewer.
Barry Meguiar 01:02
But But I soon just let her talk. She didn’t need me, and she talked to that camera, and she spoke to that camera I broke.
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Is it we’re exactly the same.
Barry Meguiar 01:23
This precious lady lives an entirely different world for me, a world away from me, as much as you can the United States. And she was expressing things that I feel my innermost being. I this is what I these conversations I have with God and nobody else. And she’s sanded in the camera. She broke me, and I thought I met one with her. We’re We’re soul mates. I never met her before, and We’re soul mates. How is this possible? And that’s when it first came to me. The the more we progress through life, to life, and we get closer to God, all of us getting closer to God, the closer we get to God. That’s the unity of the Spirit. That’s the family of God. Isn’t that special? Yes, yes. You guys and us, Karen and I, are enjoying the family of God together. We’re celebrating together because two entire different paths have have brought us to the same point. Um so and our last, in our last podcast, we ended up by talking about stuff. This is stuff. Yeah, I remembered George Carlin. He did a thing, funny thing, way back about stuff. It’s just more stuff. So, you guys us, we have stuff, okay, explain what that stuff means to you in relationship to the opportunity you have to represent.
Speaker 1 02:54
Yeah. I mean, we talk about it. We came from broken family childhood for America impoverished, not for the world. And we know that God has given us a place in the social, economic position in the world. For the kingdom, it’s for his work. Yeah, it’s so we can share the gospel with people in our relationship. And should he decide that we end life financially where we started, we’ve talked about as long as we’re together and our dogs and our dogs, we this is home. This is home. We have five children, eight grandchildren. We were just all together. That’s what matters, our faith, our father and our family.
Barry Meguiar 03:46
It’s it is amazing.
Speaker 1 03:51
One of my one of my testimony stories, if you don’t mind, was around our pool. It in. It was the pool was acting up all the automation. And to be very transparent, I was very frustrated, brand new stuff. Right To your point, Barry, brand new stuff. And you and I had just talked, and the pool mechanic was coming to the house, and I had been talking with him recently, and I just happened to ask him again, you know, how are you doing? What’s going on? My wife just left me. He said, she raided our bank accounts, she stripped our house, and I found out this week I have cancer. Oh,
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and I just sat there,
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personally ashamed, because I was so upset about the spillway and the waterfall on my pool. I mean, God’s really sometimes gentle. Sometimes he’s like, Scott, come on, get priorities here. And then so I started asking him about what we’re talking about right now. And it’s so interesting when you move into that, because don’t matter how many times you do, it is the Lord, and we just have to open our mouth. And I thought I was going to ask him one series of questions, and this thing went a whole different direction. Yeah, and at the end of our conversation, he prayed with me to receive Jesus.
Barry Meguiar 05:25
That was a that was a divine encounter and and an unexpected one. You did not expect that conversation to go that way, but you’re open to it. Yes, yes, it’s amazing. And can I?
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Can I just and then
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we wanted to open up our money to him. We, you know, this man had just lost his money, lost his wife, had cancer. So I go into the house by he’s out working on the pool. I go get go in and get some cash out of the house, and come out and he starts breaking down, because it’s like now, now we’re brothers, and the testimony of what’s true, does the stuff mean more to me than him, is what I was hearing in my head. This isn’t for this was me, yeah, and I just remember going in and wanting to get all the cash I had at that moment and get it into his hands. And it was an expression of love, because it’s just stuff. It’s just stuff, but his soul was redeemed on our property, and I got the privilege of being there.
Barry Meguiar 06:26
I often say to people in travail, Well, God has you right where he wants you,
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yes, what?
Barry Meguiar 06:34
What kind of God is that? Well, he’s been trying to get your attention and no matter what he does, he can’t get your attention. So, you know this, what happens when you’re not he went really good. Now you can revert. Now you can get back. Now he can put it all back together again, yeah, restore your attention. You know, I That’s right. Oh, that’s
Speaker 2 06:59
good times. You know, our suffering. When we suffer, I say suffering gives us a stage and pain gives us the microphone. Yeah, and when someone’s looking at our lives and it looks perfect from the outside, but we are showing our suffering, revealing our suffering, honest with our suffering, and still praising the Lord. That’s when people Amen like they, begin to say, well, what is it that helps them through their suffering? Because it’s a common experience. We all suffer. I know you’ve suffered deeply. We have too and And yet through it all, we know that God loves us, and our theology is very simple. God is good and we trust Him, and that simple message is for everyone. God is good, and we trust and he we trust Him, and He loves you. And so it’s suffering is often a great way and a great opportunity to share your faith when you’re suffering or you see someone else suffering,
Barry Meguiar 08:20
isn’t that good we lost, as you know, our 49 year old daughter. And I led the service, because I knew half of you probably there, and they were, were not Christian. They were car guys, great guys, but not Christian coming to see, is Barry gonna smile now? He’s always smiling, you know, is he gonna smile now? And I did, and I explained, you know, I always have good days. I don’t always have good things happen. Bad things happen, yeah, but God’s always there and and there’s having a difference between happiness and joy. Happiness is fleeting. It just he comes and goes every day. Joy is Well, boy, Joy is a that’s a whole different thing. We had a couple with us at that service. They flew out from Tennessee that to be at that funeral meant a lot to us. We had no idea that within two years, we would be in the East Coast attending a funeral for their son, their married son, and and she came to me about a year later, and she said, you know the parable of the building the house on the sand or in the rock, yes, and then the storm comes, yeah. She says, You know what? You know what this your comment triggered this in my mind. He says, You know what the message of that is. And I threw out every kind of I could think of. You know, the message is, we all have storms. You just said it. We all go through these periods. We all have storms in our lives. The question is, do we have we built our our life on the rock of Jesus Christ, amen for the saints of this world. And. We built our house on the rock on Jesus Christ, we will not be moved. That’s right. And I again, just one last thing, I just say to people with Christians, particularly when they’re in trouble, don’t waste it. Yes, don’t waste it. Don’t waste it. What are you talking about? Don’t waste it. You’re serving God. You have joy, you’re sure, you’re sharing your faith. God’s making everything work for good. He’s up to good here. And good for God is souls. That’s right, using this to get more souls into heaven now. So get on board, and don’t complain. And say, where are you God? But says, say, what are you up to God? And then, by your very demeanor, your very joy in the midst of the storm, you’re leading people to Jesus. And God wants to do that in our lives. He allows us the purpose. You’ll never give us more than we can handle. He knows that it’s like a compliment. Boy, God must really trust you what? He has a lot of respect for each that’s a compliment, because he’ll never give anything more than you can adore. He knows you can handle this. Straighten out, and you know, for His glory.
Speaker 1 11:09
And you said, it’s about souls. It’s interesting, as you were saying that Barry, it kind of hit me so many of us as believers, as Christians, who’ve given their life to crush we’re still using the old scorecard, the scorecard of the world, the scorecard the Federal Reserve and the banking system set up for us, and the scorecard not of God, because it’s about you’re so man, it just when you said that, it just illuminated that If we start counting our days and counting the score according to salvations in Christ, technically, our brothers and sisters, so we can have the last brother and sister come to our father so we can go home. This isn’t our home, hallelujah, but we keep doing the scorecard of our old way, the world’s ways, and we No wonder we’re in conflict, no wonder we’re so frustrated, because we’re not we’re not in the game. We’re not even paying attention to the right scoreboard. When you said that, it just just the field has changed when you become a believer and it’s not a spectator sport. No, that’s true,
Speaker 2 12:21
and I loved your saying, don’t, don’t waste it. I always say don’t waste your dying, because it’s your last chance for evangelism and how there’s a reason that last words are lasting. Words make them count. Make them count for your family, make them count. For the nursing and medical staff that’s around you, you will be surprised how many people will see you as you are going through your final days, and will come to know the Lord, because last chance evangelism is very powerful, and we all have that opportunity. And so I say when we’re when we’re on our way home, let’s worship our way home, because that is a powerful method of sharing Jesus, and we’ll see more people in heaven. And
Barry Meguiar 13:19
when you when you seize that opportunity, you guys are, he gives you more opportunities. He does. You know, I had this experience. I’ve talked about a long time, many times. I’m not going to bother with Albert. I did have a guy coming to mind, David Nutt, and tell me, in 1976 my business was my pulpit. So I didn’t see him for 24 years. He left and went to another church. After 24 years, he called me. I had not seen him in 24 years. This man changed my life. But then to now, my businessman by pulpit, 24 years later, he comes to me in the year 2000 and he says, I have a word for you from the Lord. And I push back. I mean, if we follow every word for the Lord, would be confused. So I disturbed, maybe not, but he wouldn’t let me go, and he sat me down. He says, You heard this book, The Prayer of Jabez. I love that book. I had not that time, had just come out within the next three months. I think about everybody in Christian who had read this, this short prayer Jabez, who, who had much he was honoring God, and His prayer was, Lord, enlarge my territory so I can bring you more, more glory. Yes, and he comes back. I just read this book this weekend, and God told me to come back and tell you he’s going to enlarge your territory. I was being faithful. With a little bit, he’s going to give me more. His God’s going to enlarge your territory, and he’s going to give you a ministry separate apart from your business, which is what we’re doing right now. Doing right now. This is ignited. It all happened. But the interesting thing is, in the next seven years, our 100 year old family business doubled in size. It doubled Wow. My TV show that I had for 18 years went all over the world. People knew me all over the world. Are we paying number one selling car wax? Most countries around the world. Why was that? I got to tell you, it was great for the business, but that wasn’t what it’s about. God enlarged my territory. He enlarged my influence, and I’m using that now more than ever before. Every day, more and more, I’m using what he’s placed in my hand. Take it all away from me. I don’t care. You know, a few months ago, we thought we might be an internment camps or so. We didn’t know what was ahead. And I said, if I get a tournament ever go, everybody’s gonna need the Lord excited him as I am now, wherever he places us, we’re in the game, right? Yes,
Speaker 2 15:38
yeah. And it’s fun to be in the game, and it’s fun to be in the game with people like you, Barry, you and Karen, like fellow warriors. Yeah, fellow warriors. But also, I heard you talk once, and it made me excited, because they’re not a whole lot of people out there as excited as us, but until they start trying it. And so my recommendation and what I how I begin my day is I anticipate, yeah, that God will bring someone in my path, that I can pray for, I can share the gospel with, and that I can love on we have. And you know what, when I ask him for that. He rewards me with someone every single day, and it happens in different ways, and he’ll do the same for anyone that’s listening. You will be so
Barry Meguiar 16:32
the moment we say the same thing twice, we’re getting into a script. Yeah, even in the beginning of the conversation, don’t use a script. Just allow God to speak, speak through you. It’s so much fun. It’s just we have the privilege, yes, at this moment, I think of all
Speaker 2 16:52
billions of people all the years, and
Barry Meguiar 16:56
he shows us to be here at this most incredible time in human history to represent him, Holy God, yes, using us, speaking through us. What a what an incredible privilege.
Speaker 1 17:07
Yes. So I was, I have was having a down around COVID In those years. I remember I was having a particularly bad day, and I was like, Lord, I just give me a layup today. Just, would you just give
Barry Meguiar 17:22
me a layup? I’ve done that. I’m having a
Speaker 1 17:26
this is I’m in a bad season. I’m feeling sorry for myself. I need a layup. Would you just give me a layup? Within minutes, my phone rings a gentleman from a hunting club that I’m a part of in the hospital had just become conscious enough to use the telephone. And he said, the first thing that came to mind is, I gotta call Scott Pyle. I gotta call Scott Pyle, one of the hardest drinking, hardest partying, most enjoyable guys to be around. Just a blast. Hardcore. Almost dies during COVID, calls me and I share the gospel over the telephone with him. Are you kidding? I mean he and the things he said about my life and watching me and observing me all those years when I thought I was up there just to hunt, it led him when he became conscious after almost dying, I was the and he got a phone. They let him get have a cell phone, and he called me, I come on. Man, that is, I was so excited it need I needed it so I needed it as much as he did. I needed that like Lord man, thank you. That it was because it was five years of reward that came back okay, because he had been watching me and listening me and judging me and for five years, and then when it came time, I’m the one he called, what a layup again,
Barry Meguiar 18:56
His Word doesn’t come back void. So many times you don’t see it. You don’t see it, but it’s happening. Yes, yes. I had one friend of mine in Chicago, Bill call me and he says, Hey, Jack wants to talk to you. He’s out in Oregon. What? What? What’s he need? Barry, he’s dying. He’s in a hospice bed, and he’s asked his wife to get a hold of you. I knew why? Yeah, 50 years. Wow. No return. Years zero, not a response in 50 years, I say it dropped on the ground, nothing. 50 years, I call him, Hi, Jack, how you doing? Good? What? I’m dying. You’re what? I didn’t let him know that I knew anything. I’m in a hospice bed in my living room dying. Tell me about God. And in about 15 minutes, I letter to the Lord. I did it twice, actually, I did. I say, Okay, we’re going to do it one more time, and you’re going to pray these words to be. Make sure that they’re not just words. You’re saying to God. You’re receiving Him, you’re receiving his gives you eternal life. We did that. Yes, I said, you know, we’re gonna spend eternity together. Yes, he never thought that far ahead. I said, we’re gonna do and I gonna spend a journey together. What you and I are both going to heaven and the earth is nothing. We’re gonna spend eternity. We’re gonna hang out together for eternity. And he laughs, yeah, wow. He died a few days later. It just took me 15 minutes. Uh, no, actually, it took me 50 years, yeah, with him just saying something, just a colonel, just just some chum. Yeah, if they’re not hungry, they won’t eat the chum. The fish will keep going right on by. We’re fishers of men. You throw out chum, right? But when they’re hungry, they see the chum, and then they start coming up your chum line closer. And there’s nothing more fun than seeing you, somebody you’ve been chumming for, for a long time, come up and then ready to and lead him across the there’s nothing better.
Speaker 1 21:07
As a critical care doctor, she’s ushered many people across the debt the thesis of death, and she has a story about a man who was screaming and cussing at nurses and just angry and kept telling her she couldn’t be a doctor, that she was his angel, because, of course, she’s beautiful. Can you imagine her standing over your bed and that white doctor, you’re like, you’re an angel, you’re not my doctor. And then, well,
Barry Meguiar 21:32
you see it was seeing God through you. And then he, he,
Speaker 2 21:36
he calmed down when I started talking to him. And I explained who angels are, but who Jesus is, and that’s who he needed to know. Wow, and I was just a person just like him, who loved the Lord and been saved by the Lord, and that’s been my journey in medicine so many times as people are reaching, you know, their final days. And I’ve shared Christ with a man, Ray Robert, and he had heard from his daughter, who had prayed for him for all of his life about Jesus at when she became a Christian, and he always rejected it. And so as I was caring for him, he was dying with prostate cancer. I shared and he accepted Christ, and he said, Can we call my daughter and tell her together. And it was a time that I walked out of the room. Wow. And if I never get another moment in medicine or in life, I am so thankful for this moment, because it just puts everything into perspective. You know, I can care for someone, I can get them out of the hospital. They can even receive a miracle, but they still die. But the truth is the word so, so means healed, but it also means saved. So the one prayer that always results in a miracle always is the prayer of salvation. And then we go from the land of the dying to the land of the living and and that’s the promises of God. So who would turn that down?
Speaker 1 23:36
Yeah, well, and you know for me, and I know we gotta wrap Barry, but I it’s it’s coming to my mind, and I’m realizing my pool’s not breaking down. It’s drawing workers to our house to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ. Think about if the pool wasn’t broken, yeah, and he wouldn’t have came, I would not have had the opportunity. I have to get my mind right too, and remember, God works all things for the good of those who love Him, who are called accounting to His purpose. And it’s all things, not some things, not bad things, all things. And
Barry Meguiar 24:18
he draws all opportunities, but the world is starving yes for what we have. Yes, and it’s not just in church on Sunday morning. It’s what we represent, the Holy Spirit living through us, Touching Lives even before we speak. Yes, we’re in full time ministry, and we have that great privilege, as he draws unto us, to be responsive. We have to be you said you have to be focused. We ready for it. You know, don’t let don’t let it pass us by these great moments we have for lives for eternity, we’ll be celebrating for eternity.
Speaker 2 24:57
Peter Peterson and I want to add one more thing. Him is, I have a chapter in my book called The most important preparation, and it’s, it’s our soul. But what I loved about Billy Graham, he had two questions he would ask, and I asked this in this this chapter, are you prepared to die? And he’s asking, are is your soul prepared? And then the second thing you would say, if you’re not sure if you don’t have a day or a time or a place that you had that personal encounter with Christ, let today be that day, because I don’t want anyone that’s sitting in church or a religious place and believing that they’re saved without the true personal encounter with Christ and, and that’s know your day and time and, if you’re not sure, make the day be your
Barry Meguiar 26:03
day. Amen, if you know he’s Lord and you confess with your mouth, yes, it is a confession that confirms that decision we made in a heart, folks. I hope you hear this message. The question is the final question for all of you listening right now. Are you living your lives for for God? Are you living your lives for yourself? That’s decision or you can make, and you know it. You know the answer right now, if you want to live your life for God, then jump on the boat with us and have the time guaranteed. Thank you, folks, we’ll see you next time. Love you. Bye.
