Ignite with Barry Meguiar Podcast

Speaker 1 00:00
Hi, everybody. Welcome back to Ignite. Okay, we have a corker for you today. I gotta tell you, a lot of our podcasts are a little more of the serious nature, and not gonna happen today. This guy next to who’s, he is serious.

Speaker 2 00:15
And this whole thing’s gonna be serious.

Speaker 1 00:16
But he hides it with all of his humor. George Janko, great to have you on. Thank you. You blow me away. You’re so much fun. You’re bigger than life. Go back to your impulsive show that people may know from before that you built with Logan.

Speaker 2 00:31
Yep,

Speaker 1 00:32
and Logan, well, you may have seen that in the past. And then he just started talking about Jesus all the time and kind of needed to do his own thing, and so you have a huge following now.

Speaker 2 00:42
Yeah, praise God.

Speaker 1 00:43
Goodness gracious, I mean, you have a lot of folks that follow you, and we like to laugh, don’t we?

Speaker 2 00:50
Yeah, well, I do.

Speaker 1 00:51
We, well, but we all do, even the sourpusses do. They don’t know how to do it very well, but the point being, sharing your faith is fun. It’s fun. There’s nothing more fun than sharing your faith. Yes, and you do that to the extreme. I love your heart. We go to the same church. Okay, give him a little plug here. Dream City Church. Yes, we go to

Speaker 2 01:11
Dream State Church. By the way, if you ever come, you’ll see him up front, I guess, the whole time won’t blink at all.

Speaker 1 01:19
Well, he’s doing the same thing, he’s looking down. Hey, you know, anyway, because the church we met through church, not through media or anything else. No, yeah, yeah. And we started talking the first night, I just fell in love with this guy, because we’re saying all the time, sharing your faith is fun. The church makes it so hard to make it so serious, like, oh, or gee, I gotta share my, like, like, we have a horrible problem, we got it, we’re stuck with selling, or so we got the graceful, we had Jesus Christ, the gospel, which it’s phenomenal.

Speaker 2 01:50
And by the way, he’s not lying at all, like, a lot of people have this, like, facade, and this guy, he preaches the Gospel to every single, like, me and him will be talking, somebody will sneeze on the crossroad, and he goes, “Let me explain to you why you’re blessed. I’ll be like, “God bless you”, let’s move on. But he’s seriously, seriously about it, and

Speaker 1 02:10
it’s both ways, and so when we hang out, we don’t get hanging. You’re so busy, I’m busy, we’re going different ways. It’s amazing we’re even here today, and you’re catching a plane in a couple of hours.

Speaker 2 02:20
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah.

Speaker 1 02:21
so but when we’re together, I mean, it’s all, it’s all fun and representing the Lord, and the joy of the Lord. You have the joy of the Lord.

Speaker 2 02:29
Yeah. Thank God. I used to be a sourpuss.

Speaker 1 02:31
Oh, tell us. Okay, give us a little background, help you. I mean, you weren’t, you were always George, but give us some back, give us some perspective on your life spiritually.

Speaker 2 02:39
You know, it’s long story short, I grew up

Speaker 1 02:44
not sure, not sure, we want to know.

Speaker 2 02:45
Okay, it was 1993

Speaker 1 02:47
Okay.

Speaker 2 02:48
The doctor was like, “You’re gonna have a boy”. You know what? I think God gave me the entertainment gift

Speaker 1 02:57
Do you think?

Speaker 2 02:57
yeah, it was a great gift, and I just started wielding it for him, and I think I just found a lot of joy and peace in that. Yeah, I think what happened was I had a great gift from him, and I wielded it just to have other people worship me, and I didn’t know that. Oh, okay. Early on, well, you grow up watching Hannah Montana, and you’re like, that could be me.

Speaker 1 03:16
Yeah,

Speaker 2 03:16
and I did want to have that, that fame, where I. what’s intoxicating?

Speaker 2 03:20
The fame,

Speaker 1 03:21
yeah. It’s intoxicating, you

Speaker 2 03:23
know what it is. I think we live in a society where everybody wants to be validated, and I grew up and nobody validated me, and I had no friends, so I was like, you know what, I’ll just entertain people. And it started out small, like making fun of myself. The class would laugh, yeah, and they’re like, yeah, he might be stupid, but at least he’s funny. And so I started making friends that way,

Speaker 1 03:41
Genesis, yeah.

Speaker 2 03:43
From the pits to the palace, yeah. They put me in resource, because I have a whole stand-up, a bit about, you know, all the times I used to cry, I cry now happy tears, because it makes me very wealthy with my stand-up. Yeah, those God used to watch me cry, be like, just wait a few years,

Speaker 1 04:00
stand up. I think that’s the hardest rollout. You’re just standing by yourself, but you just gotta, you got people watching, expecting, waiting for you to make them laugh. Yeah, but I’m

Speaker 2 04:08
never by myself.

Speaker 1 04:09
No, you’re not, by the way.

Speaker 2 04:12
This guy’s like, yeah, I do a little podcast, I come back, he has four like CBS studios in his house, dude. I was like, he has a live audience, by the way. It’s quiet in this room, but there’s a live audience.

Speaker 1 04:24
It just happens. It’s just down in the office, the basement of my house. I mean, it’s no big deal.

Speaker 2 04:28
You and your wife are so like cute and modest, but like your guys’ success slips up. But then we were having dinner, she’s like, “We don’t have that many cars, we have like 15”, and I was like, “Ma’am, that’s a lot, that’s a, that’s a dealership”.

Speaker 1 04:41
There’s a story to every one of them, and everyone is ministry dollars. When we sell them, they will all go to ministry. That’s what makes us, and they’re making money. So we’re making money for the Lord while we’re driving around in these school cars. That’s a pretty good deal. We got that figured out. It works.

Speaker 2 04:58
So I gotta ask. I know that you’re the interviewer, but I think that we owe your audience some good questions about you. What made you go from a great model when it comes to business? And then you’re like, hey, you know what? I want to, I want to have a podcast, I want to talk. Usually people are like, you know what, I’ve done a lot, I’m gonna lay back and enjoy the fruits of my labor. You’re like, another studio, we got this guy from Daily Wire sitting right here. Hold on, let me show you guys his face. Does he not look like Michael Nolan? He’s yelling at Ben Shapiro as we speak. That’s Ocean Rasso. You see the Ocean Rasso show, he’s amazing. We, we did a little podcast earlier, and he blew me away. Is the depth of his knowledge what made you want to do all this?

Speaker 1 05:41
It’s all God, and quite frankly, it’s been my life. I was born, raised to church generations back. Most people that know me well know that country generations down on both sides of my family, or I went to church Sunday morning. I didn’t have your life. I had Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night. I was taught well, to whom much is given, much is required. Early on, I applied it to my business, and I said,

Speaker 2 06:08
But were you ever a bad boy?

Speaker 1 06:08
No

Speaker 2 06:09
Never?

Speaker 1 06:10
No, sorry

Speaker 2 06:11
No way. I don’t believe you.

Speaker 1 06:13
I said a bad word one day. Oh, it’s terrible. I just.. I just got down the altar, started praying for.. forget.

Speaker 2 06:19
I see you being a prodigal son. You’re like leaving, you come back.

Speaker 1 06:21
See, I didn’t have any problem with booze or anything else, because my friends were all Christians, loving the Lord and serving Him. And, quite frankly, I grew up in a denomination to practice, really practiced what’s called legalism. Got it? Legalism is, you better, if you don’t, it’s like being the fair side, Pharisees, you know, like, or you’re gonna go to hell. I didn’t want to go to hell.

Speaker 2 06:42
Yeah.

Speaker 1 06:43
So I didn’t go drinking.

Speaker 2 06:46
And how do you feel about the legalism now?

Speaker 1 06:47
I detest it, except that I’m glad I had it, because I look back, you know, I didn’t do a lot of those things because I didn’t want to go to hell. But it’s not about that. It’s about joy. It’s about love. It’s not legalism, it’s just fun and the joy, the freedom that we have, that we can live the lives we have, and just let God use us in our natural, in our natural personalities. We don’t be preachy, you’re George, I’m Barry, both have personalities, but that’s what makes it all work, doesn’t it?

Speaker 2 07:17
He’s like this at the dinner table, they’d be like, “Hey, can I get you guys something to drink?” It’ll be like 10 minutes, and we’ll be talking to her about the Gospel, like Barry. Just tell her I won’t cope. Wow,

Speaker 1 07:25
thank you. But it is.. we have this chemistry, and it’s fun because we’re different ages with different backgrounds. Yeah, but there’s a oneness, you know what? But

Speaker 2 07:34
I feel honored to be your friend, and I’ll tell you why. I think it takes men years to have the wisdom that you have, and so when me and you are so like-minded, I think it’s a blessing from God that I could see eye to eye.

Speaker 1 07:45
Well, and you dwarf me in the knowledge you have at your age, where you’re at, your fervor for the Lord. So it goes both ways. Now I’m learning here, we are, and here I am, and we got a few people to talk to

Speaker 2 07:55
In this room as well.

Speaker 1 07:56
So, what’s it like to be a crazy guy? That first, I’ll go back for a moment, because you always had Christianity in your life to some degree,

Speaker 2 08:05
Always. Yeah,

Speaker 1 08:05
So you had this God consciousness. Why did it click for you? I’m interviewing you. Okay, remember, I’m interviewing you.

Speaker 2 08:13
I’m so sorry. I’m so sorry. Yeah, you know what it was, Barry. God put me through such… I hate to say tough time, right, because when I reflect on it now, to me it was such a generous thing that I had to go through. I try to tell people now, whatever you’re going through, if you could find a way to worship God through it and honor Him through, and if I could go back in time and talk to the younger me, I’d be like, hey, all the things you’re sad about, God’s doing something great with you. And when I was a kid, I really had a tough time making friends, and so every day after

Speaker 1 08:46
Impossible to believe it. Okay.

Speaker 2 08:48
Oh yeah, I mean, I talk a lot now. Me, back in the day, it was just like, yo, this kid needs to get out of this room, like you can’t think.

Speaker 1 08:55
Quick time out.

Speaker 2 08:57
Yeah,

Speaker 1 08:57
I was an introvert.

Speaker 2 08:59
I don’t believe it.

Speaker 1 08:59
People don’t believe that. They say, well, if I, if I, I’m an introvert, if I had your personality going personality, and then I can do it too, but that’s not me. Wait, first off, he didn’t say, ‘Go ye to the world, all you who are gifted”. He said, ‘Go”, yeah, right. But I got out of my being an introvert by being compelled, feeling compelled. I knew what my mission was. I needed to share my faith, and so it forced me to start talking to people I didn’t know about, how much God loved them, and that worked me out of it. I’d still have some, some introvert characteristics in my life. I don’t want to say anything. I used to hide behind my wife, I’d go to events, I’d hide literally, I’d hide behind my wife, because she never had a stranger in her life, and she loves everybody, and I’d let her start the conversation, then I’d pop out and say, “Oh, I’m her, I’m her husband”, that’s really, she’ll tell you the stories, it’s hilarious. But anyway, we’re talking about your story right now, go ahead.

Speaker 2 09:54
I was long story short, I was just sitting there, and I’ve always had a relationship, every. Everybody always thinks that I started my relationship now, but when I was a kid, I would go to the park that this church had, it was right next to my neighborhood on Bell Road, and I would just sit there laying in the grass, and I would just talk to God, like maybe eight hours a day.

Speaker 1 10:17
How old were you?

Speaker 2 10:17
I started doing that in the third grade.

Speaker 1 10:20
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 10:21
And I did that, like literally till this day now. Wow, I would just lay in the grass, and I would just talk to him like he was right next to me. That helped me with prayer.

Speaker 1 10:30
God has always had your heart, he just been, been growing and calling you since those early. Isn’t that amazing? Yeah, when he starts, he completes.

Speaker 2 10:42
Yeah, I was talking to this, my friend about this, Alex, and he was telling me that he fell out of his faith, and I was telling him, like, you know, the journey’s not done, you know, because I believe I told him, I say, I could believe your words, I could believe Jesus’ words, and I’d rather believe in his words. So, yeah, I’ve always had a relationship with God. I think that people saw it on the internet, and they think it was like an overnight thing. I think when I went to Hollywood, and I got everything I’ve ever dreamt of, I was super lonely, because all I kept consuming my thoughts was about myself. And so I asked God, I said, “Hey, why…

Speaker 1 11:15
stardom does that a lot

Speaker 2 11:17
I think you know what, I don’t even think it’s that, because I thought it was, but I realized that people have that in every situation. I think anything that you fear to a point of, like for example, fame, you get scared of losing it. Money, you get scared of losing it. True, it could be a woman. Oh, I love her so much, I’m scared of losing it. Yeah, I think we take a lot of God’s gifts and end up worshiping them and then making them our God, and so I asked God, plain and simple, one day I said, Why is it that I have everything I’ve ever prayed for, but I’m sad, and when I was a loser, had no money, had no friends, I was working at Five Guys, flipping burgers, I was the happiest I’ve ever been in my life, and He told me, because when I was flipping the burgers, I was thinking about Jesus, and so I just started changing my heart.

Speaker 1 12:03
Just got distracted. That’s where America is today.

Speaker 2 12:05
Distracted?

Speaker 1 12:06
America was focused, and when I was a kid, it wasn’t a matter. Do you go to church? Is, where do you go to church? Everybody went to church.

Speaker 2 12:12
Yeah.

Speaker 1 12:13
And everybody’s on the bus in the afternoons. One day a week, we get on a bus and go to church. We had religious instruction in public schools across America. Where is God now? Well, God hasn’t moved. America’s moved. We’ve moved away from from God. Yeah, we’ve got to get, and that’s our job. That’s our job. We need, and that’s your job. We need to ignite you to Ignite America, the revival, one person at a time. That’s the message of our, of our ministry. We can Ignite America, but we do it one person at a time. You do it with NASA audience, but if we’re going to really get it done, we all need to get in the game.

Speaker 2 12:48
Yeah,

Speaker 1 12:48
it needs all of us doing it.

Speaker 2 12:50
You know, somebody told me, he goes, you know, times pass where, you know, they say, like, good times create a good man, create good times, and good times create weak men. You know that saying? Yeah, and I kind of like, I think it’s not that I think it’s like when we get good, just like just as an us, we forget God. So, I think when the country started thriving, it just forgot who made it thrive.

Speaker 1 13:13
Exactly right. Yeah, couldn’t say it more clearly. We forget every good gift comes from Him,

Speaker 2 13:18
Yeah.

Speaker 1 13:19
And then also we think because of his gifts we’re entitled and justified.

Speaker 2 13:25
I was having a conversation with this guy named Johnny, and he said we fall in the same category that Satan does when we expect blessings from God, and we make it like a mandatory thing, like in its expectations, and now that if God doesn’t give it exactly the way that we thought, then we’re like, wait, what’s going on? Like, why are you doing that? And it’s, I have a, I have a hard time explaining that to people. It’s the posture of our heart. I think every man is either Cain or Abel, and it’s either he’s grateful to God or he’s not. And I fall myself like slipping through that once in a while.

Speaker 1 14:01
Yeah, yeah. When our God, you mentioned about we have other gods, you know.

Speaker 2 14:08
I’m sorry, what?

Speaker 1 14:11
In talking about how we have other gods

Speaker 2 14:11
Do we have other gods?

Speaker 1 14:16
Do we do? So, whatever we serve, whatever we… whatever we’re excited about.

Speaker 2 14:17
Oh, false gods, got you, got you.

Speaker 1 14:18
Whatever, whatever fills our mind, fills our prayers, fills our words, what we’re talking about, whatever gets us motivated, that’s our God. And that could be all kinds of things, from drugs or sex or money or fame or whatever. And there’s a lot of Christians right now who, if I say this, the self-test for everybody is okay before you stand. Are you talking about Jesus? How often do you talk to people about Jesus? Unfortunately, the statistics would suggest that most of you are not doing that. Doesn’t mean you’re not a Christian. I don’t say you’re not going to heaven. I’m just saying that, but to the. Letter to the church at Ephesus in Revelations 2. He said, I know you go to church, I know you’re regular, I know you’re faithful, I know you give money, I know you do a good teaching from bad, but I have this against you. I’m no longer your first love. We could, we could, and not even realize it. I did it with my business, I did it for two and a half years, I was praying for my business. I was in crisis with the family, was dysfunctional, and I needed help, and all of a sudden I was driving down the street, and a hayseed preacher was preaching. He said, “Who’s your god?” Now that way, I know the answer to that question, and he said, “Again, I ask you again, who’s your god?” Okay, I think I’ll change stations. I was trying to change the station. He says, “Whatever fills your prayers is your God.” And that was like shooting a bolt in my head. I was so preoccupied with my business, I forgot God. I was praying more, I was in the Word more than I’d ever in my life, but my God was… I changed my God, and I couldn’t wait to get hungry on my knees and say, “God, I don’t care what I take it away from me. I just wanted to be in your presence. I just want to serve you. I just want to honor you.” It’s a life-changing thing for me. So, this thing that we talk about, not lightly, but I take it extremely seriously, that it’s so easy for all of us. How did your business perform after all that? Oh, steroids. I mean, just the funny thing is, the family member that most opposed me, that was causing the ruckus. Do you know within two weeks he had a heart attack, and I found myself in the hospital ministering to him and praying for him, and there was a resolution. It didn’t last forever, but it became peace in the family. I thought, for two and a half years, I’ve been going through all this chaos because I was serving my God, and the moment I searched and said, “God, take it away, I don’t care”, peace came just like that.

Speaker 2 16:46
Yeah.

Speaker 1 16:47
It was, it was a life lesson for me that I want to portray to you folks. You know, just, who’s your God? You don’t want to live for your God. I mean, there’s… it’s easy to do, isn’t it?

Speaker 2 16:56
Yeah, I think that people just like you, right, when you’re in the car and you wanted to change the station, I don’t think they were thinking in their brain that they’re worshiping another god. A lot of people, and this is why the scariest Bible verse in the world is many, many will come to me and say what they did, and I think that there’s a lot of people preoccupied on trying to do something for God that they neglect what God did for them.

Speaker 1 17:20
Amen. Yeah, I mean, it’s not what we do, what he did. I think it matters, everything else. And you know, there have been times when I’ve focused on going to do this. God had another idea. Yeah, and in my early years, when I was immature, I was, I mean, I yell to God, I yell to God. God’s so patient, he just puts up for the sin always. I look back now that how stupid could I be? But I was mature, right? It’s a growing process, like everything else. He brings us to maturity. Now you look back and say, God, thank you for putting up with me all those years when I had that much knowledge, and now I see more clearly.

Speaker 2 18:07
Yeah,

Speaker 1 18:08
we see through glass darkly, we don’t quite know, but we just relax and know he’s if we know he’s in charge, he’s going to make a good even the bad stuff. What’s to fear? It’s just fun.

Speaker 2 18:20
When you walked in your faith growing up, did you ever even, when you were reading the passages, being legalistic, when you’re going through your trials and errors, you’re seeing God, was there every blimps in your life where you kind of hesitated, like, is God exist, like, is that a real thing?

Speaker 1 18:35
In, you’d have to understand the environment I was in, that was, that would be very hard to do, because there was evidence of God everywhere, and miracles, and answered prayer, and saints in the church that just loved me to death, and I was in such a blessed environment, I was given a lot, so no, I was never at a point of, I never, I never been asked that question, good question, but in my life I never had any thought that there wasn’t a God or whatever. I just wanted to serve Him as best I could, and I realized I made it hard, and then I found out it’s just easy, just follow His lead, right? Just listen to His voice, and it’s all about love. Know you’re my disciple by your love, and when you’re just loving everybody, doesn’t matter who they are, even particularly if they don’t look like you, particularly if they don’t like you, love them anyway. It disturbs them greatly. They don’t know what to do with you, keep loving on them, you know what I mean. It’s just people can judge you, and then you’re loving on them, they don’t know what to do.

Speaker 2 19:39
Yeah, turning on the cheek is a lot more powerful than people understand,

Speaker 1 19:42
it does.

Speaker 2 19:43
Yeah, the

Speaker 1 19:43
power of love.

Speaker 2 19:46
What is a, what is a healthy relationship with God due to marriage?

Speaker 1 19:51
Oh my goodness, you know, I’m 62 years married.

Speaker 2 19:55
Do you ever?

Speaker 1 19:56
It is a miracle, I thank God every day. Well, she stayed with me for 62 years, was she put up with you for six? Do you understand what she’s had to go through?

Speaker 2 20:04
Was she faithful to God during those times?

Speaker 1 20:07
Oh, absolutely. Positivity, you’re both faithful, but you can still be stupid, and I was too many times. Yeah, and I question it now. You know, we’re all, we’re all shades of gray. Jack Hines, my pastor in California, just talking last week, I’m shades of gray. We’re all sinners saved by grace. You say the same thing. We know that we know our humanness. We can’t ever escape our humanness. We can never escape Satan trying to accuse us and distract us and whatever. But when we keep our focus on him and moving everybody closer to Jesus, it just.., that’s nonsense. We just..

Speaker 2 20:39
You have a very successful business, and in a world where people have to work for it, and like strive for it, but then the gospel says that a man who sleeps is favored by God, and even when he’s sleeping, he takes care of him. Yeah, what’s the healthy balance between working hard or worshiping, and when does it become too much work, and when does it become…

Speaker 1 20:58
it’s one life.

Speaker 2 20:59
So you just bless one life, yeah,

Speaker 1 21:01
It’s one life. I’ve been off so many times. How do you reconcile your faith with your business? It’s one life. So, when I was close to bankruptcy, it’s one life. I’m using it for my testimony. It’s even better when we’re under strife. Do you know when you’re dying in the hospital, and I was, you know, at those moments in time, they are the moments your faith is put on steroids, because people expect me. I have a problem. They look at me and they think I never had a problem in my life, and they look and they say, if I had Barry’s business and his cars and his wife, you know, I’d be happy to. They don’t know that I was just as happy when I was dying in the hospital.

Speaker 2 21:42
I bet your wife was like this. She goes, well, the wife thing is,

Speaker 1 21:46
So, we just love the Lord, and we say together when bad things happen, and they do bad things happen, not every day, sometimes multiple days, but, but every time we say, What are you up to now, God? We gotta, you got another lesson for us, you know, there’s somebody in the middle of that tragedy we’re going to talk to, that we would not have had that opportunity had we not had this problem. You had a flat tire, you’re the way to an important report, a point, an important appointment, heart sight, and you get a flat tire. Where are you, God? Thanks a lot, God. Where are you when I need you, God? I mean, that’s the typical response.

Speaker 2 22:20
Yeah.

Speaker 1 22:21
But then you get out, the trouble of a guy comes, and he’s almost in tears, he’s so down, and you start asking, you find out that his son just died last night, and here he is working, and you have the opportunity to minister to him that you would not have had unless you had that flat tire, and then you find out the appointment was canceled anyway. God does this every day. It’s an adventure. We say every day is adventure. You don’t know what God’s gonna be up to today, but you know, whatever, good or bad, He’s in it.

Speaker 2 22:50
My mom used to tell me, if the door is closed, it’s not because Satan’s closing, it’s because God’s closing it. So, when there’s a lot of kids trying to pull it open,

Speaker 1 22:57
absolutely. And I think, absolutely,

Speaker 2 23:00
I think I wish sometimes God would let them open that door just for a little bit, because we would open.

Speaker 1 23:06
He saved us through so many things. We have so much coverage. You love just spontaneity. I mean, you do it from the sage, but you also just do it off whatever, whenever relationships are prompted spontaneously. I mean, I know you got all kinds of stories. Do you have any, you have any one-liners, or a couple, a couple of quick stories that would talk about how it is on a normal basis? Our people, they’re not on stage, they don’t have a podcast, they’re normal people going through the course of life like we do, apart from all the other stuff we do. And what’s it like for them? How do they share their faith. How do they get into a God-centered conversation without making themselves look like fools?

Speaker 2 23:48
I think the best way, you know, recently the past five years has been like the loneliest I’ve ever been. He separated me from a lot of things, but I liked it because it made me realize that I wasn’t ready for the stages yet. I’m going on the stages now, and I’m so grateful that I wasn’t on before, because who I was going to demonstrate before is not somebody I’m proud of. So, I think I wouldn’t even rush them to go preach the Gospel. It’s kind of like having a beautiful girl that you want to brag about, rather than just having that intimate relationship. I think that being alone sometimes, a lot of people look down on it, because a lot of people are lonely right now, but if they only knew, most, most ever since Covid, people like have a really hard time connecting with people, and I told them, I go, “Listen, like, be alone with God, and then you’ll know who you’re who you are before you go back into the world, and when you go back into the world, you’ll have that confidence in that relationship”. I don’t know what it is. I make a joke about this with my wife. I go, does every girl want me now that I’m married? Right, there’s a confidence to me when I walk in the room. Now I’m not looking at women because I don’t care about women, but now all of a sudden women want me because of it. So, I always joke around, I go, you know, we focus on something so much, and then when. We turn our minds on it. It naturally draws that attention. So people chase the world, but if they chased God, the world would chase after them. Like that’s how I see it. Okay, this is the best Bible verse I could explain to you. I don’t know what business you’re in, I don’t know what your situation is, I don’t know if it’s a personal thing or a business thing, I don’t know if it’s a spiritual thing or a physical thing. I just know this, that the Gospel is true when it says, if you seek first the kingdom of God and all of His righteousness, then the rest shall come. The reason why He says the rest is because the rest for Barry is different than it is for me, and I think that a lot of people try to tell God what to do, and I think if He came in a physical form, 90% of us in a relationship with God would ask Jesus to follow us instead of us follow Jesus. Do you know what I mean? And I think there’s a lot more peace when you let him kind of direct you rather than you tell him what to do, because people are locked in with their prayers. God, I need this promotion. God’s like, you’re gonna have a heart attack at 40 if you have that promotion. You can’t have that promotion, but we get so stuck on it that if we don’t get it. We’re like, yo, why doesn’t God love me? But if you, if you practice knowing that He loves you more than you could love yourself, then when a door closes and you get in the habit of celebrating it just as much as if a door opens, then you’re already walking on the water. Why did Jesus walk on the water? I think about this all the time, and I’ve pondered this with Johnny. Okay, in the Gospel, waters is judgment, Noah’s Ark.

Speaker 3 26:23
Yeah.

Speaker 2 26:24
And then they say that Jesus is the new ark, so now he’s walking on the water. Peter only sinks in the water when he takes his eyes off of Jesus. Yeah, I tell this to people that do business all the time. You are looking at the problem so much that you drowned in it, and then if you look at Jesus, then you’re saved in him.

Speaker 1 26:41
So that’s good preaching.

Speaker 2 26:42
A lot of people tell God how big their problems are when they show they should show their problems how big their God is.

Speaker 1 26:48
Everything you’re saying is powerful, of the things we chase after, you know. And praying, God help me do this. The guy just laughs, and he doesn’t give, because he loves us.

Speaker 2 27:03
How is your… how do your prayers go?

Speaker 1 27:06
How do my prayers go? My prayers are conversational. Yeah, I’m not very formal in my prayers. I doubt that you are is…

Speaker 2 27:12
Do you kneel?

Speaker 1 27:14
Sometimes.

Speaker 2 27:15
When you go to sleep do you kneel before you do it? Because sometimes when I’m like just like lazy with it, I get so scared.

Speaker 1 27:21
I I’ve never been asked that question before, but the fact of the matter is, you know, I heard this scripture, obviously 50 years ago, pray without ceasing. I can hardly remember to pray every day. I mean, sometimes I go 10 days, I don’t pray, pray without ceasing, yeah, yeah, that’s but when you’re, when you’re focused on moving everybody every day closer to Jesus, when you’re in full-time ministry, when you know even your actions, your unguarded actions, your, your response to great news or bad news, or or somebody hitting you or pushing you or being rude or spilling soup on you, it’s all ministry, you know. When your actions that way, then you’re impacting everybody, and they, and they see that there is a consistency, right? Yeah, in everything you’re doing, and when you do that, you’re praying without ceasing, because when I walk in the room, I’m praying immediately. Who should I now? I’m selling car wax, or I’m doing, you know, I’ve got, I got agendas, but that’s always secondary. When I walk onto, I’ll be at a huge car show this weekend, it’s an evangelistic opportunity. Am I talking car wax? Of course I am. I’m talking about their paint finish, how beautiful it is, and that’s all I used McGuire’s his whole life. Oh, thank you very much. I mean, I love my business, I really do. I’m a car guy, I love cars, but that’s all going to go away. I want to represent the Lord, and I want to move everybody, even in those most ecstatic conversations about our products or the cars or whatever, in the midst of it, I’m going to bring, I’m going to inject God into that conversation. I love that. I’m going to make, so when I’m doing that, I am praying, and I realized about six months ago I actually prayed without ceasing. I’m on my knees, no, I’m just continually talking to God, and so in that respect I understand the moments, and I’ve certainly been on my knees and been weeping and felt the presence of God, where I was afraid to move all that, but I’m not constrained by that.

Speaker 2 29:38
Yeah.

Speaker 1 29:39
I can be flying down the highway to 120 miles an hour, whatever.

Speaker 2 29:43
I mean, you should be talking to God more than that.

Speaker 1 29:46
Yeah, on a track or something, but you get my point. When it’s all about the Lord, it’s just… it’s just freedom, isn’t it?

Speaker 2 29:55
Yeah.

Speaker 1 29:56
It’s freedom. We’re free.

Speaker 2 29:57
I have this funny story. My dad, you know, he’s. Not, he’s more Christian by his actions, you know. He doesn’t really like talk too much about it. Recently, he has… when I was growing up, my mom was the preacher, my dad was the teacher with his actions, and one… my dad was such a great father, like not only did he work like a dog for the family, but he was there all of the most important things. You are, yeah, extremely blessed, extremely blessed.

Speaker 1 30:22
You and I both.

Speaker 2 30:22
And one day I was watching my dad at a younger age. His back was hurting so much, it was shooting like pain to his legs, and watching this man, like walking like an old man in the house. And we take him to the doctors, we take him to people that poke him with like needles and stuff, and we’re doing all these blood tests, and the doctors cannot figure out what’s going on with them, and I’m sorry. I prayed, I was like, “Lord, please, like, help my dad”. Like, this is crazy. I can’t see my dad like this. Time goes on. All sudden, I’m watching this dude. He’s like twerking in this kitchen. I’m like, “Well, what’s going on? How are you like you moving around like there’s no [unintelligible].” He’s like doing limbo. He’s like walking around. So I walked up to him, I said, “Hey, man, what’s good? What? How did you… what did you do?” And he starts laughing. Now, this is, you know, how he says, God, everybody has a relationship with God in a different way, right?

Speaker 1 31:07
Personal.

Speaker 2 31:09
God, my dad’s personal one is when he goes to bed at night, he used to always get on his knees and pray. That’s how I was asking this question. He’d always get on his knees and he would pray, but one day, when he started getting older in life, he started getting tired, and so he’s like, you know what, I’m gonna start praying laying down while I sleep. So one day he was in so much pain, he was like in his bed, and he was laying, and he’s staring at the ceiling, and he goes, Lord, like, what is it? All of a sudden he just started having flashes of him on his knees while he’s praying to the Lord, and he goes, you’re getting so lazy with me when you talk to me, you won’t even present yourself in the way that you should present yourself. He goes, “What if I took away your health? What if I did? Would you then get on your knees?” So my dad struggled to get on his knees in so much pain. He said his prayer, his pain went away.

Speaker 1 31:55
Isn’t that amazing?

Speaker 2 31:56
So he is still this day now. I see him on his knees, and I whisper in his ears, like, “Yeah, you better not act up, you better not act up”.

Speaker 1 32:02
So we are each uniquely made. There’s only, there’s only one George.

Speaker 2 32:07
That’s not true. I’m actually a junior.

Speaker 1 32:12
No, but there’s only one George Janko. Okay, that is, there’s only one me. Thank God, there’s only one me. And he makes… there’s.. there is no blueprint. You got to fit into this mold, and you got to do this, and you gotta, whatever you gotta do, God’s not like that.

Speaker 4 32:26
Yeah.

Speaker 1 32:26
And for different reasons, for different ways, He, but whatever it is, we listen to His voice, and we need to be obedient. And my obedience may be different than yours. What He’s asking me to do may have nothing to do with your life, but He’s, He’s special that way. We’re out of time. Can we, can you, could you, will you do another set session? Yes. Do you have a little time to do that? I know your time’s fresh.

Speaker 2 32:26
No, no please, let’s do it.

Speaker 1 32:26
Would you like to have you get a little more of this guy? Well, we got you. Okay, okay, okay. Stand, stay tuned for part B. All right. God bless you.